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Palliatively Speaking Ep 6 - Better Conversations, Better Care
This conversation explores the challenges and strategies involved in helping clinicians, particularly surgeons, improve their communication and decision-making practices to provide better patient-centered care. Dr. Gretchen Schwarze, a vascular surgeon and medical ethicist, and Dr. Amy Zelenski, an education researcher, discuss how their collaborative work aims to shift clinicians' mindsets and behaviors around informed consent, prognostic communication, and shared decision-making. They share how surgeons often struggle to move beyond a "fix it" mentality to meaningful improvements in patients' lives. Dr. Schwarze advocates reframing the surgeon's role as assessing whether an operation can help the patient achieve their goals, rather than just fixing a problem. With background in theater, Dr. Zelenski discusses the power of improv-based strategies like the "two-minute rant" and other techniques in cultivating empathy and empowering clinicians to respond rather than react to what is happening in their surrounding environment.
Guest: Gretchen Schwarze
Guest’s guest: Amy Zelenski
Episode Title: Better Conversations, Better Care
Summary
This conversation explores the challenges and strategies involved in helping clinicians, particularly surgeons, improve their communication and decision-making practices to provide better patient-centered care. Dr. Gretchen Schwarze, a vascular surgeon and medical ethicist, and Dr. Amy Zelenski, an education researcher, discuss how their collaborative work aims to shift clinicians' mindsets and behaviors around informed consent, prognostic communication, and shared decision-making. They share how surgeons often struggle to move beyond a "fix it" mentality to meaningful improvements in patients' lives. Dr. Schwarze advocates reframing the surgeon's role as assessing whether an operation can help the patient achieve their goals, rather than just fixing a problem. With background in theater, Dr. Zelenski discusses the power of improv-based strategies like the "two-minute rant" and other techniques in cultivating empathy and empowering clinicians to respond rather than react to what is happening in their surrounding environment.
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In this podcast, host Toby Campbell dives into the inspiring journeys of clinicians from all corners of palliative care. You’ll hear from palliative care physicians, nurses, social workers, scientists, and chaplains who are making a profound impact through their groundbreaking research, advocacy work, innovative tools, and, of course, by being there for patients and families in their most vulnerable moments.
We’ll explore what drives them, how they got started, the challenges they've faced, and those moments of clarity that changed everything. Stick around; you’re about to be inspired and transformed.
About the show:
Dr. Toby Campbell talks to the brightest minds in the field of palliative care. Together, they examine the experts’ knowledge about culture, medicine, communication and what it means to truly live, and die, well.
Each episode, his guest brings a guest to the show. A guest's guest. Dr. Campbell lets them introduce each other so that we can see these special people through the eyes of someone who knows them best.
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